Kail Lowry and Vee Rivera from Teen Mom always bond over being moms together. But things between them might not be as nice and rosy as they seem.
Lately, Kail has been acting like she’s jealous of Vee. And it all has to do with Isaac, Kail’s son that she has with Vee’s husband, Jo.
Kail and Vee’s whole relationship is based on them being mom friends. They even have a podcast together, called Baby Mamas No Drama.
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If you don’t know, what brought them closer in the first place is that Vee is the stepmom of Kail’s son, Isaac. But it actually took a while for them to become friends.
After Isaac’s dad Jo got together with Vee, Kail did not like her at all. The two of them were feuding for several years, actually.
But eventually, they were able to put their differences behind them and become friends. Except things might not be entirely as they seem. Kail’s real feelings about Vee might be a little different from what she shows on the outside.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying the two of them aren’t actually friends or anything like that. But over the years, Kail has said some things that make it seem like she might not be completely over whatever problem she had with Vee in the first place.
Kail Didn’t Want Isaac Calling Vee Mom
At first, she really didn’t like Vee. But it might have been less about her being Jo’s new partner, and more about her relationship with Isaac.
The thing is, Kail and Jo share custody of Isaac. So when Jo and Vee got together, that obviously meant Vee would be involved with parenting Isaac.
Vee never seemed to have any problem with that. It’s obvious that she loves Isaac very much.
She and Kail even talked about this at one point on their podcast. Vee was talking about how you should love your stepkids the same way you love your own kids. It was Kail who started questioning that and was doubtful about it.
It was also Kail who said that she didn’t want Isaac to call Vee mom. She was pretty stubborn about it, too. It sounded like if he did start calling her that, Kail would make a huge drama out of it.
Luckily, that’s one thing we never actually got to see. Maybe being so dramatic about your kid calling his stepmom mom might be going a little far. But overall, I can understand how that might be uncomfortable for Kail.
After all, he already has one mom so things might get confusing. But the thing is, Kail’s stance on this whole issue was actually really hypocritical.
On the one hand, she was so set on Isaac never calling Vee mom. But at that same time, she was perfectly happy with him calling her then-husband, Javi, dad.
I mean, there’s no difference at all between these two situations. Isaac already has a dad.
Kail Wants to Be the Most Important Person to Her Kids
It’s not even like Jo wasn’t present in Isaac’s life or anything. He’s always been just as much his parent as Kail has.
So if the argument was that he shouldn’t call Vee mom because he already has a mom, then he also shouldn’t call Javi dad. But like I said, Kail had no problem with that at all.
That whole situation got pretty ugly when she and Javi divorced and he was no longer in Isaac’s life. Isaac actually got really upset about that.
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He was just a little kid back then, and it was pretty heartbreaking to see him asking for Javi. Especially when we all knew that Javi just wasn’t going to be involved anymore.
To be fair, Kail has admitted since then that she made mistakes when it came to Isaac’s relationship with Javi. But the fact still stands that she didn’t mind Isaac calling Javi dad at first.
It just proves that her reasons for not wanting him to call Vee mom are not really rational at all. But with how Kail has always been about her kids, it’s pretty obvious what those reasons might be.
Kail just always wants to be the number one important person for all her kids. In her eyes, she’s the mother hen and her kids have to be the little chicks and follow her. If they didn’t do that, it seems like that would make her feel really insecure.
Kail Involved Herself in Teenage Drama
But this by far isn’t the only weird thing about Kail’s parenting. She talks about all of the details on her podcasts, so we know exactly what she’s always up to.
For example, about a year ago, she brought up this story about something she did that was just wild. It all started when Isaac got into an argument with a girl at school. When Kail heard about that, she decided to text the girl to try and help solve the problem.
Keep in mind, this was pretty recent. Isaac was already a teenager at that point.
There’s really no reason to believe he wouldn’t be able to solve this kind of thing on his own. So Kail really just stuck her whole head into some teenage drama for no reason.
What’s worse than that is that she actually thought it was a good idea to text the girl directly. I mean, it would be one thing if she wanted to talk about things with the girl’s mom. She would still probably be putting herself into things that just aren’t really her business.
Although we don’t know exactly what Isaac and the girl were arguing about, so maybe there could be a reason. But texting the girl herself is just crossing a line, no matter how you look at it.
Just think of how weird that must have felt for the girl. She was just having beef with a classmate, like normal, and suddenly, his mom was texting her about it, trying to resolve the issue.
Vee Is Usually the Better-Adjusted of the Pair
Kail said that pretty soon after, the girl’s mom actually contacted her and told her off for texting her kid. Which Kail should have expected, really.
I mean, imagine being the girl’s mom and finding out that another parent texted your kid about some teenage drama. Then, on top of that, in this case, that person was Kail Lowry from Teen Mom.
That could make it even more concerning, honestly. Especially because Kail always shares so much about her kids publicly. So who knows if that could also affect your kid now that she involved herself in her business.
When Kail told Vee about all of this, Vee actually fully took the other mom’s side. She told Kail that it was wrong of her to text the girl and that she definitely shouldn’t do that again. Which is just a reasonable thing to say, really.
It just once again shows that Vee is just the much better-adjusted one between her and Kail. Although Kail eventually agreed with Vee that it was probably not a good idea for her to text the girl.
She said that at the moment, she just wasn’t sure what to do and she wanted to help the kids with their problem. When the girl’s mom texted her, she apparently was able to have a productive conversation with her about it. So at least Kail is willing to listen.
The things she does sometimes might be completely out of left field. But at least she doesn’t then double down on it when people call her out. That would just make things so much worse, in my opinion.